Chris Watts was charged with the murders of Shanann and their daughters Bella and Celeste on Aug. 21, 2018. Was it weakness on his part or hers? It is something I myself have done (not proud and definitely not in the same situation of course) but I can see where things can pile up and become hard to face or tell the truth on. Between his mother controling him all thru his years growing up and then Shanann taking control, a person can only take so much. Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts Shanann was delusional in living beyond their means but she wasnt EVIL Chris Watts is. I know we cant judge a parent by a few videos, but I didnt see the passionatly loving parent or strong engagement between he and his kids. No one has been able to fathom Chris Watts' motive - until now Two Face is available now exclusively on Amazon Kindle Unlimited. I love Chris! she wrote. I couldnt imagine a better man for us. They were facing financial ruin and so, to admit they werent thriving meant a further lose of income. I have been there but sometimes you have to get a reality check. How did things change so quickly? On Aug. 15, 2018, less than a week after his wife and daughters disappeared, Chris Watts failed a polygraph test. But I work my ass off in a cold office every day to pay for it. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW, A milder separation narrative [to Shanann]. Cans Natz. Meanwhile, Chris began his affair with Nichol Kessinger, a woman he worked with, telling her he was separated. He was denied bail at his first court appearance. They were also due in court just weeks after the murders because their homeowner's association sued. He stated that he was having an affair with a woman named Nichol Kessinger and wanted to divorce Shanann, but Shanann did not want a separation, and she strangled their daughters in response to that. Murder is a way to save the family from the hardships, etc. Interesting he says when things were not going well in their relationship, thats when she poured herself into work, out late, not coming home at all etc. Quiet people may appear calm but Chris was not quiet inside. "Chris these have been the best years of my life! Thats so sad. Thats bad enough in private, in a marriage, imagine what it feels like to see that on social media from your partner. Very charming outside but empty inside. He smothered his daughters to death, buried his wife in a shallow grave, dumped his daughters' bodies in an oil tank, then he went to work as if nothing happened. You spoil us with love an attention! Well, she shouldnt have . The first indication that something might be wrong in their daughter and her husband's marriage was during a family trip this past summer. It was clear from the messages that Shanann's marriage was in crisis, Chris was at best apathetic about the new baby, the couple had serious financial problems, and Shanann had begun to suspect Chris was cheating on her. I am so very sorry all of this happened but perhaps it gives pause for thought when making decisions. Shannon too did a lot for the family. By Adam Carlson Published on December 7, 2018 10:00 AM Shanann Watts' parents knew her marriage was having problems and that her husband of nearly six years, Chris Watts, had grown distant. I think she emasculated Chris. He doesnt say but of course, we are only getting Leonards side of the story and we cant hear Shananns. I find it very odd that he did not have girlfriends in high school and prior to meeting Shanann and that we never hear from any of them. There hasn't been a crime as chilling and tragic as the murder of Shanann Watts and her daughters in a long time. And if her controlling nature was no big deal then it would have been no big deal. If you look at photos of their dining room before the bankruptcy you can see a beautiful black dining set with side board and Im not talking cheap stuff here as I would say the set was a minimum of $5-7000. There she is chatting merrily with her mother about how they may go to the Mediterranean next year and how the water is nicer other places theyve been. For some reason she couldnt fathom him cheating and posting stupid shit constantly about her wonderful life that was only in her head. More info here: https://crimerocket2.com/2020/10/08/frank-rzuceks-letter-to-detective-baumhover-on-his-observations-of-chris-watts-deteriorating-relationship-with-bella-and-ceecee/, Your email address will not be published. It probably doesnt matter to those people that Shanann was controlling, and you raise a good point, did she internalize everything and wonder what she was doing wrong? Shanann hiding her possible impending divorce, goes along with her living in denial as she does when she tells her Thrive clients that shes a better mother and all around human being because she wears a patch, eats the bars and drinks the shakes. Chris Watts killed his pregnant wife Shanann and their two daughters three years ago, a still-shocking crime that shattered those who thought they knew the picture-perfect young family. The streaming platform recently released the documentary American Murder: . He refused to hug me after he said he will try to work it out! Even though the family had issues before their tragic endthey filed for bankruptcy in 2015 friends and neighbors called them the "perfect" family,per The Coloradan. He wasnt emasculated by her, thats who he was before she came along. Lewis Geyer/Digital First Media Group . There are strong ideas that point in a direction (multiple directions) but I think it is going to be an accumulation of reasons that ultimately led him to lash out and commit murder. Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage but she never suspected her life was in danger. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. But after years of this I dont think its easy to change who you are or how you treat people. She labeled things, yes, but it was her unwillingness to let things go that was truly obsessive. Not sure how often that happens even though Im still friends with my sons ex-wife but it would be very hard not to like her, There is an interview of an ex-girlfriend . Chris Watts: Complete Cast of Characters | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs. [2]The Denver Post jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_2575_1_2').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_2575_1_2', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top right', relative: true, offset: [10, 10], }); Watts Murder Case Being Discussed on Dr. Oz Show. Hes a fucking psychopath. She could barely handle the 2 monsters she had, another on the way, and Chris did a lot around the house to help out with the girls, meanwhile she had them in school that cost them 2K per month. That is what makes this case all the more interesting, we had most of their life documented on social media and STILL cant figure it all out. IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year. Christopher is now in jail facing six charges three for first-degree murder and three for tampering with evidence. Why SW stayed in NC all that time is beyond me. Shanann was buried in a shallow grave, while Bella and Celeste were left submerged inside two oil tanks at the site. Interesting none-the-less. And so I agree with you Holly that five week taste of freedom sealed the deal, and he couldnt go back to business as usual. She would have moved back to NC, had her parents look after the kids, gotten a regular ole job and not have been too happy. Thank you so much for providing all of the analyzation and conclusion because it defines this case as it was and is. Shanann Watts and the girls had gone to visit her . Choosing his clothes, his meals, his everything. On August 13, 2018, Chris strangled Shanann in their Colorado home. That was the plan. We can ALL agree (to some degree) that there was something off with CW and there is something we all cant seem to put our finger on when it comes to their relationship and they may have just simply been not good for each other, both with differing personalities, strengths, weaknesses and ways of handling life, setbacks, feelings, etc. Shananns family has said Christopher, 33, confessed to killing his wife and children, but law enforcement has not publicly confirmed it. Obviously Thrive was all BS and she was facing a pregnancy all by herself, flat broke and facing humiliation from her team/peers and raising kids by herself. Psychoanalyse the hell out of it and for those who believe he was in a mentally abusive relationship, have your say but the fact remains that he murdered his children. In an interview with a. , Christopher said he and his wife had an emotional conversation before her disappearance, and he pleaded for her and the kids to come home. She noted that most murders of American women are committed by intimate partners, not strangers. Cheating is their hallmark. I agree with your points. On August 13, 2018, Colorado father Chris Watts murdered his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their two daughters, 4-year-old Bella and 3-year-old Celeste. I think the combination of having freedom, no matter who he was with, the upcoming gender reveal, the added pressure to their financial and health woes, Shanann badgering him for not responding to or caring about her when shes in North Carolina, and then the final straw of the nut gate incident and Shanann basically demanding he cut off his family with the exact wording he should use to confront them, and adding that they wont be allowed to to see his children again nudged him towards the decision to get rid of his family who were becoming too large of a burden for him. The juxtaposition of Shananns seemingly idyllic life and its violent end has stunned the public and attracted widespread media attention. He already secured the oil field site so that no one else would be there when he disposed of the bodies. I felt all along there was apparently a rush by the prosecution to get this case brought to closure while ignoring various aspects that to me were very important. I didnt believe it until reading thru so very many sites and articles like these with comment sections and such. He admitted to that. Being open and honest is the best way to prosper individually and as a couple. Is Shanann the only girlfriend he ever had? I dont buy him snapping, as you mentioned on a previous post, after Shanann threatened him with never seeing his kids again. That was definitely the plan." The bankruptcy case was closed in October 2015. In an effort to avoid the death sentence, he had pled guilty on Nov. 6, 2018 to killing his pregnant 34-year-old wife Shanann Watts, and their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, not quite three months earlier.And the five life sentences that would be handed down weeks laterplus additional time for the murder of his unborn son . A Timeline Of Chris And Shanann Watts' Marriage, Shanann Watts worked for a multi-level marketing company. Hes the best dad us girls could ask for.. This explains why he had both female AND male secret lovers. She did cheat with the dirty south guy. In a fit of rage, Chris strangulated Shanann and took the three dead bodies to a remote oil-storage site, Anadarko Petroleum, where he was employed before. I love you so much and so grateful you hung around when I tried pushing you away in the beginning!, On Fathers Day, Shanann penned a loving tribute to her husband on Facebook, and she shared over a dozen photos of him cuddling and playing with their two kids. It is hard to understand why Chris committed the violent acts. LEONARD had heard that SHANANN was really involved in . We also know that in the weeks prior Shanann was setting her husband up in her Thrive spiels as a great father and perfect husband and the best thing that has ever happened to her. There was equity in the house but they didnt exactly buy low. All of this would allow him to pacify her as well as himself and buy him some more time. Its the underlying current of this entire tragedy. People with less than 2 brain cells should not be allowed to comment on public posts. I love Chris! she wrote. I knew Chris as a middle schooler and high schooler, he went to school with my kids. At all. I agree CBH. Why was their marriage not going well? The baby was a way of Chris Watts wanting sex so instead of just asking for sex he says why dont we try for another child. This was supposed to trigger the annihilation that followed. It really isnt a good feeling at all to know you are expendable and vulnerable. That is a comment that should never have been said; parenthood is exhausting and social media never forgives human missteps. Most mass shootings in the U.S. are also connected to domestic violence. IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year.>>>Agreed. We dont know whether there had been violence during their marriage, but it would not be surprising that Shanann tried to project a positive image to her friends and colleagues, both on and off of social media.. She said he had an empty head, forget everything. This is not necessarily true, but it could be true. Didnt Shanann cheat on Leonard with the middle eastern guy at Dirty South he mentions? They were Watts way of communicating to Kessinger what he just couldnt do with Shanann. Taylor, "I am here for you and whatever you need. Chriss mom is a nasty soul and exhibits the toxic traits of a Narcissist herself, and so it would make sense. It doesnt matter what her past mistakes may or may not have been. But one day she starts seeing subtle changes, then more physical changes, and a more assured and arrogant Chris started to emerge, she knew the marriage was definitely in trouble before she got pregnant. In a new documentary from Netflix, newly revealed letters and texts show that Shanann had no idea that her marriage would soon turn deadly. By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. Hearing their parents noises, Bella came in and Chris told her that her mother was sick. But even most narcissistic sociopaths dont strangle people. But wasnt he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? And once she was done she cut him out of her life. You feel like youre expendable. He seems more of a background you and me conquer the world type of dreamer that dates women that are into the same kinksI truly think that is what it was (lust and disillusion) and once you get a taste of someone that flips that switch so to speak it is VERY hard to turn that off. Hes conflicted by the pros and cons of making such a drastic change in his life. Just Published! My former brother in law once told me that he let his wife make most of their decisions. Where does the need to reinforce someones mistake come from? Hes the best dad us girls could ask for., Need help? https://www.businessinsider.co.za/professions-with-the-most-psychopaths-2018-5?r=US&IR=T. The kids were told to throw chicken nuggets at him. He thought he could sway this to work in his favor. They filed for bankruptcy due to do much debt they had. You seem to like the psychopath label. Two days later, a body believed to be Shananns was found on property owned by Christophers employer, Anadarko Petroleum. The final minute of the video posted at this link [an extended version of the clip above] is very insightful in this regard. Amy Miller, executive director of Violence Free Colorado, said people who are being abused by an intimate partner often behave in ways that seem counterintuitive to those around them. I think he was motivated by the insurance money. I mean think about she knew that NO MAN would put up with her except Chris. He probably fantasized about a different life for a while. May be she aspired to live a little beyond their means but she didnt kill anyone not does that make her evil. When Watts visited the Hair Jazz salon in Aberdeen where Sandi Rzucek worked, it was clear to the hairdressers [Sandis co-workers] that Watts wasnt happy, and Sandi actually told them then [in early August 2018] that the marriage wasnt working, and that the couple were separating. In that picture of CW in that dumb shirt SW had made (just her, the girls had *nothing* to do with it) and made him wear, hes showing his teeth but he does not seem happy. I think that was the form her OCD took. Two years later, he is housed at Dodge Correctional Institution, a maximum-security prison, in Waupun, Wisconsin. The way she told him about Nico was bizarre. Similar to C&S relationship. unless you was there, and Im sure you wasnt. Offline, however, the text messages between Shanann and Chris and Shanann and her friends painted a starkly different picture. Place Where Shanann Watts Children were Hidden. They may feel emasculated and when the marriage begins to fail, they lose control and parts of their own identitythis kind of melds into the CIVIL REPUTABLE killer when it comes to identity and it appears both CW and SW had their complete lives wrapped up in their family. Shan'ann posted videos onto social media promoting selling Le-Vel's wellness supplement Thrive. He is also reportedly back in touch with Kessinger, who changed her name after the murders, per Daily Mail. To her he was in the midst of a divorce, and by the time of the murders the divorce was being finalized, and so was the sale of the house. Shanann and Chriss Watts with their Children. they were flirting long before they ever hooked up and each knew the other was interested in them. I think it had more to do with her controlling ways and if she knew in her heart that was why he was becoming distant or non-communicative, she really didnt know how to change that about herself, and instead amped it up until co-existing with her became unbearable to him. I listened to Interview podcast with the ex. Chilling photos show stained clothes Shanann Watts was wearing when she was murdered and buried in shallow grave by husband The clothing did not match what Shanann Watts was wearing in. Remains believed to belong to their two children were. CW family did it about her from the start without even giving her a chance. Shanann Watts Chris Watts familyhttps://www.facebook.com/ShanannWatts/photosCredit: Shanann Watts/Facebook, Chris Wattsdivorcehair jazzSeparationTimeline. She loved dogs and had a dachshund named Dieter. After Shananns death and Chris arrest, Dieter was kept at a friends house and later went to live with her brother, Frankie. On August 13, 2018, Watts strangled his wife, Shanann, in their 4,177-square-foot home. Yes . Shanann Watts Brother Always Worried About Her and the Girls But Couldnt Protect Them, Days Before Murder, Chris Watts' Wife Shanann Was Worried: 'What If He Really Doesn't Love Me Anymore? "7 years ago I fell in love with you, 5 years ago I married my best friend, my soul mate, I married you!!" He pleaded guilty that November to all three slayings. This might have been in an attempt to just glaze over their issues and not answer truthfully but to answer with half-truths. According to Shananns family, they werent consulted about the film and only came to know about the film when it was already in production. It has helped me to put my thoughts in perspective because nothing else has. Why kill them? R.I.P Shanann, Bella, Celeste and Nico . @Strawheart, how do you know she didnt kill the little girls? A lot of people seem to side with Shanann because shes the victim. We also know there was a lot of anger and bitterness, especially from Shananns side, over Nut Gate. I went out looking for as much information as I could, I watched a YT video from Something Criminal, S02/E02 and it narrates a good spin on the argument that CW was also creating an alternative version of his relationship with SW to his friends and family as it benefited him. Often that doesnt come across very popular, and some people dont like what they hear. Can you imagine her as a single parent? Separating was sort of a trial one when she visited family for 5 weeks, and divorce was push coming to shove in Chriss mind to permanently change his life. But you can see a pattern here, with Shanann Pouring herself into work and not being interested in any of the things he was up to. $150,000 equity would have been swallowed up by realtor fees leaving the two of them not much. It seemed choreographed. "It's horrific": Christopher Watts' sweetheart talks around for the first time as sentencing in Frederick murders pulls near The woman also known as authorities before Watts' arrest for murdering his girlfriend and two daughters Whenever Nichol Kessinger In BENEATH THE OIL, for the first time the full extent of how Chris Watts was locked-in is revealed, as well as why he may have broken out of his deeply dysfunctional marriage the way he did. The only negative thing he had to say was that Chris was extremely quiet and that sometimes he would basically have to pry a response out of him. On Nov. 6, Watts pleaded guilty to the nine charges he faced, including five counts of first-degree murder. Chris boss spoke very highly of him in the first phone interview with the CBI. Chris said when he met Nicole, he was not used to being treated with respect and having someone interested in what he thought. IDK just my two-centsit is hard to see in most families b/c not many of us post so openly about our daily lives. I believe he thought about murdering them as soon as he got a taste of freedom.>>>Yes. I hate to sound victim blaming and this is in no way an excuse for her husband to murder her and the children for gods sake!! Shananns job and income depended on selling the idea of Thriving. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Shanann Watts, the Colorado woman who was recently killed along with her two young daughters, was previously married to a man named Chris Watts. He has changed. It was so refreshing to finally see an actual, logical response. Theres also the reality check that she might not have been able to leave the state if Chris filed for joint custody. I would have never thot he would be able to kill his family, the people he loved with all his heart. Im sure he brought up divorce many times, her Im not so sure. I know an ex wife who was getting very greedy and sued for more and lost because her ex could show he had no income by getting his employer to pay him in cash and lived on credit cards for a while. THIS IS TOTAL LEFT FIELD.. Have you ever broken up with someone and not felt bad about it? ET. I think all the abuse and toxicity of being with Shanann and realizing that someone else would want him and treat him well made him snap. That summer, Chris had gone from a loving husband to a cheater to a killer. This baby in my belly deserves his full love, she texted her friend, who had advised her to go through Chris phone for signs of infidelity. Anger, as in a simmering boil. Covert Narcissist are incapable of real love and learn early on to mimic. I think the parents were used as a shield, the children too, so that she would not be alone with Watts in a small hotel room trying to work out their issues and his absolutely apparent, angry and distant demeanor toward her. And I say this as a woman you can be controlling and its something Im always working on. Cheryln Cadle, a married grandmother of 12, recalled her correspondence with Chris Watts in "Cellmate Secrets," a true-crime docuseries on Lifetime narrated by Angie Harmon. Oct. 29 2020, Published 3:05 p.m. During the investigation, Shananns purse containing her phone and keys, her car in the garage, and her wedding ring on the couples bed were found. There is this notion of delay, postpone, string things out. Shanann posted videos of family drama embarrassing Chris and his family, posted at least one video saying she is the dominant one in their family, insulted Chris repeatedly saying things like he has no balls and no game, insulting him to his family and to her friends. Shan'ann Cathryn Watts, born Shan'ann Rzucek was the late wife of murderer Chris Watts. During the welfare check, the police officer inspected the house but there were no signs of Shanann and her daughters. Chris Watts is a textbook Malignant-Covert Somatic Narcissist. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Its no mystery, the Watts marriage was in trouble long before Shanann received that critical credit card alert on Saturday night, proving Watts wasnt at the Rockies Games, and suggesting he wasnt eating alone. She realized she was belittling him, and too controlling, and expressed concern to Nickole about how shje was behaving and treating people. It was a part of his responsibility. Watts, 35, reportedly detailed the gruesome slaying of Shanann Watts in one of his prison letters - and he also revealed that he'd been thinking about killing her for "weeks." 15 Disturbing prison letters from Chris Watts to a crime author detailed Shannan Watts' horrific death Credit: Refer to Caption 15 It's no mystery, the Watts marriage was in trouble long before Shan'ann received that critical credit card alert on Saturday night, proving Watts wasn't at the Rockies Games, and suggesting he wasn't eating alone. I remember she mentioned in her video discussing this time period she portrayed herself as a hard worker that put him through school. Shanann Watts was an American businesswoman. After the film was released, Shananns family condemned the film and said that the filmmakers were only making money off the case. Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? Chris did a lot to help around the house yes he was the father of the family. Thats what probably sealed her fate. I need you to meet me halfway. She was making it very difficult to admit to an affair. He considered his family an albatross around his neck and divorce was never an option for him after the pregnancy was announced. The two had a tumultuous relationship, and divorced in 2013. Youre right about him being spineless, but hes not completely spineless. In his eyes they had to go all of them and I believe he thought about murdering them as soon as he got a taste of freedom. Once there, he smothered the girls and dumped the bodies of all three. Watts had two daughters with her husband, named Bella and Celeste. He'd stopped touching her, kissing her, would barely speak unless spoken to. Required fields are marked *. Shananns family has said Christopher, 33, confessed to killing his wife and children. She worked at the hospital till 2016, and then, joined as an independent representative for Le-vel, a company that markets Thrive health and wellness products.
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